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| Topic Started: Apr 29 2008, 09:32:48 AM (1,002 Views) | |
| lilhermiejobo | Apr 29 2008, 09:32:48 AM Post #1 |
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Overall, what is the best and time efficient method for handling this aspect of the application? I'm sure this has been addressed previously and I feel like I would receive the most benefit if I were able to directly hear from individuals their particular experiences regarding the AoS documentation. :ta: |
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| Pamm | Apr 29 2008, 10:24:52 AM Post #2 |
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I'd love to hear about this one too, it's one Jason and I may have to deal with when the time comes. |
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| i<3sydney | Apr 29 2008, 11:23:18 AM Post #3 |
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you can't really do anything until it is requested. i wouldn't bring it up until your caseworker mentions, because maybe you will get lucky and they won't request it. but after you send in your app, they will appoint your caseworker (agent or whatever they are called) and they will tell you what you are missing and what needs to be done. if AOS is requested, they will give you details about how to go about it, all the forms you will need to fill out, who fits the criteria, and the deadline. if you have someone in mind that will work out and is willing, it is fairly straightforward. as for what your assurer needs to do, it varies with your financial situation i think. some might just have to sign papers with centerlink, whilst others may have to put forth a bond as well. the partner who is sponsoring will have to submit either pay stubs or tax info and that is how you are assessed to whether AOS will be required. as for the assurer, i think they just submit their earnings as well over the last 2 years maybe? i don't recall the specifics. but again, it will be explained if required and i'm sure there is better info on the dimia website, so check there as well. good luck! |
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| lilhermiejobo | Apr 29 2008, 01:14:36 PM Post #4 |
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I'm sorry about not mentioning that my case officer has sent paperwork in the mail and requested that I mail it to my sponsor/assurer. From what I gather I'm just meant to send the form in the mail and they are meant to take it to centerlink. I must've missed it before when I initially read the paperwork but I've just seen where it reads no AoS Bonds are required for my application. Thank you much for your info!!! |
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| chocopaws | May 1 2008, 05:07:42 AM Post #5 |
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Sorry to just barge in on the thread, but does the sponsor have to also be the assurer? Or can the assurer be like... a member of the sponsor's family? |
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| lilhermiejobo | May 1 2008, 06:34:30 AM Post #6 |
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You're not barging in on my thread
 I don't own the internet.From what I understand according to immi.gov.au it varies based on your particular visa. Here's a link directly to the page for more information, to keep this post ADHD-friendly :aak: Assurer of Support For the prospective marriage subclass 300, Jenn will be my sponsor and her family has agreed to be the AoS for us/me. Hopefully this helps you out!!! :cheers: |
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| shylady | May 1 2008, 07:47:50 AM Post #7 |
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Yup. Unless you could fax it, to make it faster, that's the easiest, to just mail it. And then they go to Centrelink. Do you need proof of that, to lodge in DC, or will they know from Centrelink that it's been done? :headscratch: And, that's right, chocopaws, a member of his family can do the AoS  Former Prospective Marriage Applicant, Lisa in Perth |
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| lilhermiejobo | May 1 2008, 08:44:45 AM Post #8 |
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Naturally that would make sense on this end of the visa but immi has taken care of all the guess work for people like me... The paperwork has it in bold print saying Centerlink can only accept the original copy and that a xerox isn't able for the doing. Once the AoS is completed Centerlink will forward the information to the embassy in DC with my file number. Looks like i'm back off into the wonderful world of waiting :redpepper: :eggplant: |
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| punker79 | May 10 2008, 05:58:23 AM Post #9 |
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I just got word I needed to get this done. I just feel like a burden to anyone who has to fill out this paper work and deposit funds for me. It just feels wrong, but we HAVE to do it. This sucks! :chug: <-- I'll do that later.. HA HA!! |
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| lilhermiejobo | May 10 2008, 06:50:29 AM Post #10 |
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[taken from http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/34aos.htm] What is an Assurance of Support? An Assurance of Support is a legal commitment by a person (not necessarily the sponsor) to repay to the Australian Government certain welfare payments paid to migrants during their respective Assurance of Support period. Respective Assurance of Support periods are: 10 years for Contributory Parent visa holders or 2 years for all other visa types where an Assurance of Support is needed. The Assurance of Support scheme enables welfare costs for these migrants to be met by an Australian permanent resident or citizen, rather than the Australian community. Centerlink just wants to see that someone you know makes some fat cash and can back you up in case you turn out to be a bum, from what I understand. Here's the AoS page on the Centerlink website in case that helps you out. http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/inte...nce_support.htm |
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| (kolohe) | May 10 2008, 08:32:32 AM Post #11 |
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I did not pass the medical and so my husband had to give his assurance of support of me financially for two years. But heck he had been supporting me since I got here the end of Oct of 2006, before we were married. He had no problem with that at all. I think the assurance of support is from the time I lodged the application..or it could be from Jan 9th, 2008, the day the WAIVER was granted. In a waiver you have to give compelling reasons for the person to stay. We each wrote a letter to immi though I think if I remember right, only he had to. I also showed them my cell phone bill ( I owe on it for two years ) and the fact that I pay it ahead so that by the time my bill gets here it is usually already paid. They could see that all of my texts and 95 percent of my calls were to my husband as well. We are a real marriage. His phone number was from the first page to last page of my bill, all over. We both have the same plan but separate bills and get unlimited texting, unlimited internet,unlimited yahoo and msn messenger. We designated each other with a five digit number to be able to call each other free for up to three minutes at a time. With the text though I use his regular cell phone number...I only use the five digit designated number for calls to him. Hans has three kids here. Two are grown. The youngest ( a girl ) is a teenager. Had I not been able to stay we had planned to move to the USA, most likely Califofornia. His sister lives there. That was our compelling reason. With me being able to stay here we are both here for them. It would have been harder on them had we moved to the USA.
We decided that I would to try to stay here to make it easier on his kids. We live pretty close to where the his 2 daughters live and his son lives with us. My kids are all grown. It was a struggle for me at first but as time went by and I saw how wonderful Australia is, I started thinking of Australia as home.
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| punker79 | May 10 2008, 10:33:29 AM Post #12 |
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My husband had his heart set on purchasing a new vehicle .. but has to put it off on account of me. I've already cried my eyes out, feeling so bad and so guilty. If he has to fork over the 5G's they ask for, will he get that back at the end of the 2 years? It's a lot of money to ask for and not be able to touch it.
Do they do this automatically? Because I don't want it. I've never used Government assisting in my own country. Do they use all of the money? Or is it a JUST IN CASE fund? Has anyone been denied a visa because of the AoS? Sorry for all the questions.. I'm trying not to get all worked up over it, but it's so much money for him. I'm stressed to the max! HA HA! I know I need to chill!
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| shylady | May 10 2008, 10:54:03 AM Post #13 |
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Ericka, it's a "just in case" fund, I believe. If you don't use any of it during those 2 years I think he gets it all back. That's what I understand, anyway, we didn't need to do one. :hugs: Lisa |
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| punker79 | May 10 2008, 01:07:43 PM Post #14 |
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Thanks Lisa! I think I've simmered down :mrgreen: |
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| i<3sydney | May 11 2008, 10:56:29 AM Post #15 |
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no they don't give centerlink payments automatically, so no worries yes you get the bond back (obviously if it is not needed, but otherwise if it is needed, it is there to be used..so yes just in case fund) i believe yes you could be denied a visa if you cannot secure a sponsor for AOS. but i don't know of anyone specifically denied for this reason. usually people find someone. we didn't have an australian family member to vouch for AOS, so we chose a family friend and it worked fine. but we were panicing for a bit! i'm not sure what would happen though if you had a genuine case and everything else was secure but no AOS.. would seem cruel to deny for that sole reason, but i guess i could understand the gov't's position. i would think maybe they would try to work with you? i know for me i would be asking them if i myself could put forth a bond (as my family in america would for sure help out) and go from there. don't worry unless you get to a position like that.. and i hope you don't! i think it's rare unless the aussie half has virtually no family in aus or they are inelligable and you are young with no friends to qualify for AOS or similar scenario. anyway, im rambling. good luck, i'm sure you'll be fine
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| punker79 | May 11 2008, 01:40:12 PM Post #16 |
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thanks for that! we're trying not to let it affect us, so we're just trying to keep the other's chin up HA HA!
All these replies are keeping my hopes up. To everyone: 
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| lilhermiejobo | May 11 2008, 03:06:42 PM Post #17 |
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So then, is an AoS bond mandatory or is it likely that just filing to be an AoS will suffice? |
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| i<3sydney | May 11 2008, 07:56:48 PM Post #18 |
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no a bond is not mandatory. it depends on the assurers income i'm sure and every case is different. our assurer was not required to put forth a bond |
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| rdhay | May 12 2008, 08:57:28 AM Post #19 |
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So, how do they even decide who has to have one? Everything I've read seems pretty vague as to how they actually make the determination to request one. I once called the visa call center to ask some questions about the AOS and was told (unofficially) that they rarely request one. Obviously, I'm not sure how reliable that is, though. Anyway, do they take into consideration your and your husband's normal occupations and the demand for them where you're planning on living? |
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| i<3sydney | May 12 2008, 10:00:18 AM Post #20 |
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i'm just guessing, because i don't really know as i don't work in immigration or for centrelink. but i'm guessing yes, it depends the aussie half's income/education and skills. they don't ask or want to know anything about the applicant's education (and maybe employment history can't remember), so do not include that. they mention that specifically. (as well as overall don't include your education in your visa application) i've been told not to put in photocopies of my degree or transcrips and the like. so it all depends on the aussie half of the partnership. i'm sure it depends on mostly income and maybe partly their profession and education? not sure. and might also have something to do with the occupation and income of your assurer as well. agian, this is all just assumption. they take many things into consideration i'm sure.. just not to do with the applicant. because after all, you are coming over as being sponsored by your partner, so they have obligations to support you initially. another thing, i think i remember that you can't really ask your case officer the status of your AOS after you lodge it. (not sure if they'd know anyway until the outcome is finalised as it is done through centrelink) they will send you a letter saying if it is approved and if there is a bond required and all that. so all you do is make sure you get the paperwork and your assure get's theirs in by the deadline (and i believe they are very strict on the deadlines and there is no extensions) and then you just have to wait to hear the outcome. don't worry, i'm sure all will be fine. best of luck! |
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