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Citizenship Timing
Topic Started: Jan 26 2009, 09:54:58 PM (1,866 Views)
Squashy
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All of the news about people getting their citizenship on Australia Day have gotten me thinking ...

I'll be eligible for citizenship in early Jan 2010. Of course, I would love to get my citizenship on Australia Day so is possible to front load most of the paperwork so that once the day that I'm eligible comes I'm all ready to go? Does this make sense?

Or will I have to wait until the 4 year mark to get everything done? And then just wait?

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:headscratch: I know... I'm eligible about 5 weeks before you :mrgreen:
It seems to depend on your Council :( and how often they do the ceremonies... :$
They rushed quite a few through to make the largest-ever ceremony here in WA, yet a friend of mine in Sydney that was eligible in October and took the test earlier wasn't invited to attend that record-sized one there, so who knows...
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As far as I know, you can't lodge your application 'til you become eligible. Then you have to wait around for them to approve you, and then you have to wait some more 'til you are given a ceremony date, which as shylady said depends on how often your Council holds them.

(I know the citizenship test comes into play at some point, too - obviously others would know a lot more about this!)

All in all, the process seems to take several months.

I'd love to become a citizen on Australia Day, too! I'm eligible in March :woohoo: , though, so if I wanted that I'd have to wait a bit... but how long is anyone's guess...
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I'm waiting to hear on my citizenship status. I am eligible, I've been a PR for almost 7years. I wrote the citizenship test last April, got the results in May (about 1 month after the test - because I'm offshore). It took me some time for me to get all the paperwork together before I could send in the application. I sent it to the High Commission here in Canada in November and didn't have exactly everything they wanted so had to gather that for them. I then got a letter saying they sent my application along with all my documents to Canberra on December 5th.

I'm still waiting to hear on the status of the application. I am starting to get a little impatient and will probably ring Canberra beginning of February sometime.

I was hoping to hear back before our holiday in Townsville and then see if Townsville council is holding any citizenship ceremonies while we're there.

I would think that being in OZ the process will move a bit quicker.
Paula (dual Canadian/Australian) married to an Aussie since 1999 and mummy to an Aussie since 2000

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Just curious, you don't have to give up U.S. citizenship to get Aussie citizenship, right?
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Jan 27 2009, 07:54:06 AM
Just curious, you don't have to give up U.S. citizenship to get Aussie citizenship, right?
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Other countries make you renounce your native citizenship when you obtain citizenship in a different country, but not the US. I feel really bad for a guy I work with that is from China. He's on a permanent residency visa now, but if he were to go for citizenship, he would no longer be a chinese citizen. Because permanent residency visas only can be renewed twice for re-entry, that essentially means he'll have to choose in 8 years.

We're really lucky in that department. :-)
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Jan 27 2009, 02:48:08 PM
Because permanent residency visas only can be renewed twice for re-entry, that essentially means he'll have to choose in 8 years.

:headscratch: Are you saying that a person can only get the Five Year Resident Return Visa (Subclass 155) twice? That's the first I've heard that, and can't find anything on the DIAC website saying that. :headscratch:
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Jan 27 2009, 01:20:58 AM
As far as I know, you can't lodge your application 'til you become eligible. Then you have to wait around for them to approve you, and then you have to wait some more 'til you are given a ceremony date, which as shylady said depends on how often your Council holds them.

(I know the citizenship test comes into play at some point, too - obviously others would know a lot more about this!)

All in all, the process seems to take several months.

I'd love to become a citizen on Australia Day, too! I'm eligible in March :woohoo: , though, so if I wanted that I'd have to wait a bit... but how long is anyone's guess...
March! Woo hoo! :woohoo:

Maybe I'll get lucky, Tassie is a small place, maybe I'll get rushed through, who knows?
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Jan 26 2009, 09:54:58 PM
All of the news about people getting their citizenship on Australia Day have gotten me thinking ...

I'll be eligible for citizenship in early Jan 2010. Of course, I would love to get my citizenship on Australia Day so is possible to front load most of the paperwork so that once the day that I'm eligible comes I'm all ready to go? Does this make sense?

Or will I have to wait until the 4 year mark to get everything done? And then just wait?

Hi everyone

Thought I'd give this thread a bump. I'm also eligible for citizenship in early January...well, at least I think I am. I arrived in 2006 on a working holiday visa and got my PR, interestingly enough, on 4th July '08. I assume that my presence in Oz on a working holiday visa counts as being "legally resident" from the date I arrived, correct? I have only left for a month since then.

Has anyone else who is eligible soon gotten started on paperwork? I didn't even realise that you could take the test ahead of lodging the application until I read through some old posts on this forum. Guess I better get moving. I'm in Melbourne - anyone know how long applications and testing appointments are taking? It would be awesome to be in the Australia Day ceremonies (my fiance gets a big kick out of the possibility)...I think I might have left it too late though. Andrea
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Oct 22 2009, 01:08:33 AM
Hi everyone

Thought I'd give this thread a bump. I'm also eligible for citizenship in early January...well, at least I think I am. I arrived in 2006 on a working holiday visa and got my PR, interestingly enough, on 4th July '08. I assume that my presence in Oz on a working holiday visa counts as being "legally resident" from the date I arrived, correct? I have only left for a month since then.

Has anyone else who is eligible soon gotten started on paperwork? I didn't even realise that you could take the test ahead of lodging the application until I read through some old posts on this forum. Guess I better get moving. I'm in Melbourne - anyone know how long applications and testing appointments are taking? It would be awesome to be in the Australia Day ceremonies (my fiance gets a big kick out of the possibility)...I think I might have left it too late though. Andrea
No, sorry. For the purposes of applying to become a citizen, you need to have been on some sort of residence visa, not a tourist visa. Your 'clock' starts from the date of your residence visa - either the application date or the grant date, I'm not sure.
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sorry, posted twice :banghead:
Edited by minx, Oct 22 2009, 10:32:35 AM.
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Oct 22 2009, 10:31:08 AM
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Oct 22 2009, 01:08:33 AM
Hi everyone

Thought I'd give this thread a bump. I'm also eligible for citizenship in early January...well, at least I think I am. I arrived in 2006 on a working holiday visa and got my PR, interestingly enough, on 4th July '08. I assume that my presence in Oz on a working holiday visa counts as being "legally resident" from the date I arrived, correct? I have only left for a month since then.

Has anyone else who is eligible soon gotten started on paperwork? I didn't even realise that you could take the test ahead of lodging the application until I read through some old posts on this forum. Guess I better get moving. I'm in Melbourne - anyone know how long applications and testing appointments are taking? It would be awesome to be in the Australia Day ceremonies (my fiance gets a big kick out of the possibility)...I think I might have left it too late though. Andrea
No, sorry. For the purposes of applying to become a citizen, you need to have been on some sort of residence visa, not a tourist visa. Your 'clock' starts from the date of your residence visa - either the application date or the grant date, I'm not sure.
Minx,
Does that mean time spent here on a student visa wont count either?


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http://www.citizenship.gov.au/applying/how_to_apply/conferral_app_process

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If you became a permanent resident before 1 July 2007, and apply on or before 30 June 2010, you must:

* have been living in Australia for two years as a permanent resident in the five years immediately before applying, including one year in the two years immediately before applying.

If you became a permanent resident on or after 1 July 2007 you must:

* have been living in Australia on a valid Australian visa for four years immediately before applying, including one year as a permanent resident, and
* not have been absent from Australia for more than one year, including no more than 90 days in the year before applying.


so it sounds like your non-PR, lawfully resident time counts towards the residency requirement... but Australia Day 2010 might be a few months too early? (if the clock starts from the visa grant date, that is.)
Edited by sunshine, Oct 22 2009, 04:13:07 PM.
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Hmmm...it is very vague. The wording just says that you have to be legally resident for four years. And when you do the citizenship wizard on the DIAC site and look at the application, it only asks when you first lawfully arrived in Australia. WHM visas do grant legal residency. Wonder if this is something that changed when they shifted the rules...I'm not saying you're wrong, Minx, but I'm going to call them tomorrow and ask for certain. Will report back here...

Thanks to those who replied :)
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Yeah, you're probably good :goodonya: It looks like my info is out of date, sorry :headscratch:
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Jan 27 2009, 04:17:58 PM
:headscratch: Are you saying that a person can only get the Five Year Resident Return Visa (Subclass 155) twice? That's the first I've heard that, and can't find anything on the DIAC website saying that. :headscratch:
I can't find it either. Must have either changed or I must have misunderstood someone. :)
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I called DIAC this morning, and this is the information I received from an officer in Melbourne:

First, the four year eligibility requirement (for those who became a permanent resident on or after 1 July 2007) is met from the first day you entered Australia and it does not matter what visa you came in on. I asked specifically about the working holiday visa and the woman said it was ok.

The process for citizenship applications is changing on 9 November. All the requirements for eligibility and documents for ID, etc. will remain the same, however the process is changing (and I believe the applications will as well). Candidates will no longer sit the test before applying. You will now have to wait until the date that you are eligible to apply and make the application on paper or online and then they contact you to make an appointment to sit the test. She said there were no more appointments available in Melbourne or Dandenong to sit the test ahead of the 9th. I asked if I can go ahead and get my proof of identity document done ahead of the date I'm eligible and she said that was fine. She also said that the test booklet isn't changing.

Hope that information helps. It certainly clarified for me. And looks like I won't be making it in time for Australia Day ceremonies. :(

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Oct 23 2009, 09:33:07 AM
She also said that the test booklet isn't changing.
The new booklet was just published in September.
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Oct 23 2009, 09:33:07 AM
I called DIAC this morning, and this is the information I received from an officer in Melbourne:

First, the four year eligibility requirement (for those who became a permanent resident on or after 1 July 2007) is met from the first day you entered Australia and it does not matter what visa you came in on. I asked specifically about the working holiday visa and the woman said it was ok.

The process for citizenship applications is changing on 9 November. All the requirements for eligibility and documents for ID, etc. will remain the same, however the process is changing (and I believe the applications will as well). Candidates will no longer sit the test before applying. You will now have to wait until the date that you are eligible to apply and make the application on paper or online and then they contact you to make an appointment to sit the test. She said there were no more appointments available in Melbourne or Dandenong to sit the test ahead of the 9th. I asked if I can go ahead and get my proof of identity document done ahead of the date I'm eligible and she said that was fine. She also said that the test booklet isn't changing.

Hope that information helps. It certainly clarified for me. And looks like I won't be making it in time for Australia Day ceremonies. :(

Andrea
Thanks for posting this info, Andrea! :ta: Like minx, I was under the impression that only time on a proper residence visa would "count" towards the citizenship. I'm kind of surprised that they'll take anything, even (presumably) a tourist visa, so long as you're a PR for at least 1 of those years!

Not that any of that applies to me anyway, since I got my PR visa before July 2007... :mrgreen:

I've been eligible for citizenship for some time, but haven't applied yet. I really need to do that. I should also get a copy of the new booklet, I'm still working from the old one!

Thanks again for the info. :cheers:
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