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| Traveling on certain aircraft; Airbus | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 30 2009, 08:26:00 PM (949 Views) | |
| elsja | Jul 3 2009, 04:37:15 PM Post #21 |
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Gonna have to agree with Jasperbell... Even Andrew has been a little concerned with the fact that the air france and the qantas scare were both on a relatively new A330- both with similar computer issue messages. And I am kinda hoping that Andrew flies the 747 one day rather than the A380 when he gets into Qantas mainline. I really don't like the fact that if all the computers fail, the pilots can't take over. Even with like 6 backup computers or whatever, it still doesn't put my mind at ease. With that said, I'm really hoping I get on the A380 tomorrow night when I fly back to Sydney. I REALLY want the flat beds to sleep on!!! |
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| LookingDown(Under) | Jul 5 2009, 02:48:07 AM Post #22 |
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Ok so if airbusses are so stable that they don't need a pilot to fly but a cell phone signal will cause it to go haywire, theorhetically, isn't it stupid, selfish passenger error rather then pilot or mechanical fault? I'm flying the airbus A380 both ways. Something a little bit more positive might be helpful. |
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| LookingDown(Under) | Jul 5 2009, 02:52:55 AM Post #23 |
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Elsja, Your post came through July 2. and you noted you would fly back "tomorrow night." Why on earth would you book a flight home the day before an American holiday? I'm sure you have a reason, just curious why. |
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| surfermomkelly | Jul 5 2009, 01:35:00 PM Post #24 |
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My husband is an air traffic controller and we NEVER fly on airbus's. NEVER. Perfect example, I need to fly to see my parents before we leave - out of San Diego its airbus only, so I will go up to LAX and fly out of there instead 
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| LookingDown(Under) | Jul 5 2009, 04:52:45 PM Post #25 |
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OMG I really wished I hadn't of read this thread. I WANTED to be on the new airbus because I've heard it's super comfy. I'm freaking out now, like in a serious way. I do not want to die. |
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| MrsHippo | Jul 5 2009, 11:03:56 PM Post #26 |
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Aw crap - ignore them.  People fly every day and their planes land just fine. You will be fine. The new A380 is a sweet ride, and I look forward to flying it home in 3 weeks. You'll be fine and here before you know it.
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| Laurie | Jul 6 2009, 01:16:38 PM Post #27 |
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There are thousands that take off and land safely everyday. Enjoy your flight and relax 
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| meg1388 | Jul 6 2009, 01:21:17 PM Post #28 |
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I would be excited to fly on a 380, I've been to Oz twice since Qantas got the new superjumbo airbuses but I was always put on a boeing. I'm with Laurie, thousands of airbuses take off and land everyday without incident. |
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| gpierce | Jul 6 2009, 10:36:33 PM Post #29 |
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I would be "excited" too, but not for the reasons some of you would be:) I have a hard time flying on new, unproven aircraft. I don't even usually buy the first year a new model car is out:) Greg |
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| LookingDown(Under) | Jul 11 2009, 07:03:19 PM Post #30 |
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Well, just found out my flight to Melbourne has been changed to a 747. That's one less Airbus I have to be on! I feel better now! |
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| jasperbell_cam | Aug 8 2009, 02:01:09 PM Post #31 |
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Better late than never however some of you that posted there was an update today about some of the airbus crashes on yahoo.com: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090808/ap_on_go_ot/us_planes_speed_malfunction They were addressing some of the airbus sensor's used in the A-330 crashes. My thoughts are the power of the aircraft and the airspeed, and auto pilot should be left up to the pilot not a computer. This article is honest and I think the ATSB in the states should seriously address this. |
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| Dev | Aug 8 2009, 05:06:23 PM Post #32 |
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I've actually been noticing lately that most of these incidents/crashes seem to be happening on Airbus planes. Nick told me about the computer thing, and that freaked me out even more. I refuse to fly in one of those now. My flights back home in December are all on Boeing 747's, so I'm happy with that. (Even if they are with United. Better to pay $1600 for United than $3000 for everyone else!) |
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| shylady | Aug 8 2009, 08:32:51 PM Post #33 |
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shush, I don't want to hear it till my 22-yr-old kid lands safely @ MSP from Amsterdam on an A-330 Monday morning. |
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| SanDiablo | Aug 9 2009, 12:10:25 AM Post #34 |
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And my folks are on one as I type... |
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| LookingDown(Under) | Aug 9 2009, 02:15:26 AM Post #35 |
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and I was on an A-380 as you typed that. ;-) |
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| CheekyOne | Aug 9 2009, 11:08:37 AM Post #36 |
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I didn't know United was that much cheaper Dev.I may have to look into that myself. oh and as for the topic of this thread,I wouldn't go on an airbus at this point unless I didn't have any other choice.. Edited by CheekyOne, Aug 9 2009, 11:10:02 AM.
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| Bindie | Aug 9 2009, 04:23:27 PM Post #37 |
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I can read the site: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 I'll never fly Airbus again, and this is why..... I've been leary of the products produced by Airbus for years. Having said that, I've travelled quite a bit and flown on their products many times with out crashing to earth in a fireball. But, I've always been aware of when I'm on an Airbus, and my confidence level has always been lower. I'm in the aviation field, and fly frequently. One of the reasons I've favored Boeing Aircraft is that I understand them, and the company that builds them. Until the development of the Dreamliner, they did most, if not all, of their own construction in-house. Airbus produces it's aircraft from sections built all over Europe, and shipped to assembly plants in France. The biggest factor, however, has come to light in the aftermath of the Airbus/Air France flight 447 out of Rio de Janeiro last week. There's a fundemental difference in the design philosophy between the two companies, and it's major. Informationweek has a story HERE that details the difference, but basically it's just this: Airbus trusts the computers onboard, Boeing trusts the pilots. In an Airbus the computer has the last word. In a Boeing Aircraft, the pilot can always overrule the computer. Not so in an Airbus. Now, I'm a pilot, so I am both biased and know a little about what I'm talking about here. I take the controls of whatever aircraft I'm flying and immediatly accept the responsibility for all of the souls aboard. I'll use whatever tools are provided, and many are invaluable. However, just as people are not perfect, the perfect computer system hasn't been designed yet either. When the feces strikes the rotating ventilator, I'm going to put my life in either the hands of a highly trained pilot, or the digital-calculations of a computer. Computers have an edge in most areas here. They can process far more data, far quicker. They can monitor hundreds of systems and data points simultaneously. Their reaction times are in the nano-second range, and they will reliably follow thier programs under any circumstances. That last part is key. Human Pilots however, are a different situation. We can't process as much detail, and we can't react quite as quickly. However, they have not yet devised a computer that has a "will to live". That "survival instinct" is the final detail that is missing in an Airbus, and one that I feel is critical. The next time you have a chance to fly somewhere, check out what aircraft you'll be flying on. Remember that if you're in a Boeing, the pilot truely is in control. If you're on an Airbus, the computers are actually in charge. Which would you prefer? Many Airline pilots share a saying: If it's not Boeing, we're not going!. Now you know why. Happy flying! |
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| Dev | Aug 10 2009, 02:04:56 PM Post #38 |
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Well, it was much cheaper when I booked my flight home. I'm leaving 7 December. If I had left even four days later, the price would have doubled! I'm not too happy about flying United, but I'm determined to be home for Christmas! Besides...my dad flew with them when he came over in April, and he said that it actually wasn't bad! Perhaps they've changed... |
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| shylady | Aug 10 2009, 06:25:45 PM Post #39 |
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Joe's A-330 made it safely to MSP  Yeah Dev, 10th December seems to be when the tickets double for Christmastime  Joe flew over here on United, and said it "wasn't bad," but then, he didn't have much to compare it to, until he flew Qantas from SYD to PER, and then said that was MUCH nicer! Thanks for that, Bindie, GREAT explanation and feedback from a pilot!  I will definitely avoid Airbus, myself, AND United!
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| MrsHippo | Aug 11 2009, 10:34:12 AM Post #40 |
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We just did a trip "home" and back - an A-380 there, and a 747 back. The A-380 was out-of-the-park better in terms of comfort. Quieter, roomier, smoother on take off and landing... absolutely would fly an airbus anytime. I would even pay more to take one over a Boeing. |
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